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Christian doctrine of "heaven" and hell

John Piper provokes us with the question "would you be happy in heaven if Jesus was not there?" and now Ligon Duncan adds further clarity: Hell is eternity in the presence of God without a mediator. Heaven is eternity in the presence of God, with a mediator. Too easy to talk of Christ-ian doctrines without talking about Jesus Christ. Just as we all too easily slip into speaking about what it means to be a Christian without reference to Christ.

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  1. Morning Bish, the comment about Hell being eternity without a mediator is from R. A. Finlayson. He is perhaps little known today but was a brilliant Free Church thrologian. Christian Focus have a great book of his selected writings.

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  2. Maybe I'm just being a pedant, but who is this 'God without a mediator'?

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  3. I suppose it'd be even better to say that the mediator is there, but not mediating grace to those in hell, but instead mediating wrath. Perhaps a little pedantic, but probably important to add the clarity.

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  4. Are the wires getting crossed on what 'mediator' means? Sure, God's never 'unmediated' - we always meet the Father in the Son by the Spirit.

    But the lost aren't united to Christ, and therefore they have no part in Christ's role as representative. Therefore, those in hell are 'meeting' with God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) without having Christ interceding for them. That's what 'God without a mediator' means?

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