Monday, March 03, 2008

God is enough


  1. Is it just me, or does anyone else find this a bit strange?

  2. I'm finding it hard to put my finger on it. I don't disagree with the theology, or find it strange in that way. I think he is right to be angry, and express hatred towards the prosperity gospel. Paul certainly goes quite far in Galatians.

    But, how does it seem strange? I think it's the graphic nature of the illustration. I'm wondering if it's just a little bit over the line of what is acceptable. I don't disagree with the theolgy - just the communication style and approach, in the selection of the illustration and application.

    Would you show it to a non-Christian friend who was asking questions about God and life etc?

    I'm just slightly staggered that nobody else thinks it's a bit odd?

    I think if I showed this to people, it might put them off, and I'm not sure that it would be the offense of the gospel, it might well be the offense at the means and style of communication. What do you think?

    Am I mistaken? Perhaps I'm just never going to be able to understand Americans?!

  3. It's only a clip from a talk... Context is key.

  4. I'm not sure if I buy that swift duck Mr Bish

  5. This video misses some audio out of the original. Piper explains the story of the 'little girl'...

  6. a) That's up to you
    b) I had 20 seconds and could have said nothing, decided to say something.
    c) Thanks Hugh for the fuller clip.

    I'm not saying it's a perfect presentation, but that it got me thinking. Hence I posted it. In hindsight I might add a question mark to the title of the post. Or I might not!

  7. d) I wouldn't show it to a non-Christian, but I might use it to get a Christian thinking. Which presumably was the context in which it was given. Most non-Christians aren't people who've bought into the prosperity gospel which is very clearly what the video is critiquing.

  8. Thanks for the link Hughbo, I just listened to it...

    There was one extra sentence in the version you posted a link to. From what I can make out Piper seems to suggest that he saw an accident a couple of weeks before he delivered this message.

    Does that settle the matter for you?

    Sounds like a non-sequitur to me

  9. I think what he says is absolutely excellent, and I don’t think his illustration is odd. I think that it is extreme, but his point is made more clearly when he uses such a distressing example.